The end of the system of things
Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:38 PM
From: "Carlos Burman"
Dear Eiko,
I just wanted to reply to an email you sent maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago but only now i have had a chance to look at properly.
Its in relation to "the end of the system of things","1914", "world war 1" ,"armageddon"...etc......
In the email ,as shown below in your original email to me,you said that armageddon is a spiritual war....the Bible,gods word..agrees with you that it is a spiritual warfare..notice the exerpt below and what it says in Revelation 16:14...It says there that it is a war of God...Jehovah God is a spirit so obviously it will be a spiritual warfare....please read the rest below:
Armageddon According to the Bible
Although many past wars fought near Megiddo proved decisive, none eliminated wickedness. None really pitted the forces of good against the forces of evil, in the absolute sense. Logically, that type of conflict must originate with God. As Jesus once said, “nobody is good, except one, God.” (Luke 18:19) Furthermore, the Bible specifically refers to Armageddon as God’s war.
In the Bible, the book of Revelation says that “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will be gathered together “to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” (Revelation 16:14) The prophetic account then adds: “And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon,” or Armageddon. (Revelation 16:16) Later on, Revelation explains that “the kings of the earth and their armies” will be “gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army.” (Revelation 19:19) This horseman is identified as none other than Jesus Christ.—1 Timothy 6:14, 15; Revelation 19:11, 12, 16.
What are we to conclude from these verses? That Armageddon is a war between God and the forces of disobedient mankind. Why would Jehovah and his Son, Jesus Christ, fight such a war? For one thing, Armageddon will “bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18) In addition, it will usher in a peaceful world, “a new earth that we are awaiting according to his [God’s] promise,” where “righteousness is to dwell.”—2 Peter 3:13.
However,if you notice paragraph 3 of the excerpt above,it mentions Revelation 11:18(please read)...it says there that this war will bring to ruin those ruining the earth...many of which are flesh and blood like you and i...many humans in history have been very bad ...these these ones surely will be affected by this spiritual war in Heaven...
This war will affect all humans and we will see the effects of war...abit like a tsunami....the earthquake often isnt seen and many times it doesnt affect the population..yet we know an earthquake happened because of the effects of the tsunami.
So,yes while armageddon is a spiritual war, a war of jehovah god against his enemies, this effects of this war WILL be seen by all...it will effect every single human on the planet.
You also mentioned about that world war 1 which started in 1914 has nothing todo with armageddon.....well,according to Bible understanding,that is an incorrect statement...october 1914 was the very year that Jesus christ became king in heaven...Jesus as King in 1914 threw satan and all his demons out from the vicinity of heaven to the vicinity of earth.Look below at what happened in 1914...in verse 4 it says that the "woman who was about to give birth,that,when she did give birth,it might devour her child."..in 1914 jehovahs King,Jesus Christ ,did give birth...1914 was the year jesus became king in heaven...as soon as he became king,he threw satan put of heaven...this resulted in satan and his cohorts being very angry,thus in 1914,to distract jesus christs birth as king as many religions back then would come in that year,he made a giant world war,something that had never taken place previously.notice revelation 12:4-17 below.
; 4 and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child. 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days. 7 And war broke out in heaven: Mi′cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” 13 Now when the dragon saw that it was hurled down to the earth, it persecuted the woman that gave birth to the male child. 14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent disgorged water like a river from its mouth after the woman, to cause her to be drowned by the river. 16 But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth. 17 And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.
The paragraphs below show us that jehovahs witnesses Long before 1914 were warning of 1914...they said in that year significant changes took place...and from history,we all know they were very big changes to the universe..
Vindicated on the Issue
4 So, first of all, we will ask: Who were the ones that, many years beforehand, pointed out to the whole world that “the times of the Gentiles” would end in the latter half of 1914? It was the International Bible Students, using the columns of the Watch Tower magazine and other publications of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. Today they are known worldwide as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Have world events vindicated them? Yes!
5 Since most of mankind today pay no attention to that calculation of God’s time, and since Christendom with its hundreds of sects and denominations dispute its correctness, have those opposers who far outnumber Jehovah’s Witnesses won the hot dispute concerning the setting up of God’s Kingdom by Christ in the heavens in 1914 C.E.? The fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy concerning what would mark “the end of the world” (AV), or “the conclusion of the system of things” (NW), thunders back to us the answer No! Sixty-eight years after 1914 we see in existence the state of affairs foretold by Jesus in Luke 21:25-27, in the following words: “There will be . . . on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.” Properly, then, the ending of the Gentile Times in the latter half of 1914 still stands on a historical basis as one of the fundamental Kingdom truths to which we must hold today.
“The Time of the End” Confirmed
8 World events from 1914 onward confirm that the above understanding based on Bible chronology is correct. Jesus himself said that “the conclusion of the system of things” would be marked by wars, famines, and pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Revelation 6:2-8) That has certainly been the case since 1914. The apostle Paul added to the picture, saying that there would be a marked difference in the attitudes of people toward one another. His description of the changes that we have all witnessed was right on target.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
9 Has “the scene of this world” really changed so much since 1914? In the book The Generation of 1914, Professor Robert Wohl observes: “Those who lived through the war could never rid themselves of the belief that one world had ended and another begun in August 1914.” Confirming this, Dr. Jorge A. Costa e Silva, as the mental-health director for the World Health Organization, wrote: “We live in a time of extremely fast changes, which end up causing anxiety and stress at levels never before seen in mankind’s history.” Has that been your personal experience?
10 Who is the villain behind the worsening world conditions? Revelation 12:7-9 unmasks the culprit: “War broke out in heaven: Michael [Jesus Christ] and his angels battled with the dragon [Satan the Devil], and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, . . . who is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” So Satan the Devil is the guilty troublemaker, and his ouster from heaven in 1914 has meant “woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”—Revelation 12:10, 12.
To be honest, there are hundreds of pages i could send you that show that 1914 was the start of the Pangs of Distress mentioned in the bible...both secular evidence and scriptural evidence agrees with this conclusion and jehovahs witnesses know without a doubt that from 1914..we HAVE been living in the LAST DAYS of this present system and that very soon now,Jehovah god by means of his son Jesus Christ acting as King in heaven will act to bring an end to all wickedness and lawlessness both in heaven and earth.
Brother Hiroshi regardless of what newspaper tabloids says or or seemingly clever,intelligent and wise people speculate,jehovahs witnesses are 100percent confident in the end of this system which will take place.
As always,please look through this information carefully and if you would like more and can keep sending more..i just dont want to drown you with too much information in an email.
and by the way,i will answer your other questions about baptism soon in another email..
until then take care
Carlos
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